SOL Rising
Number 3, June 1989


Kim Stanley Robinson to appear at The Spaced Out Library
The Friends of the Spaced Out Library Are Alive and Well
Business Meetings of the Friends
Welcome
Canadian Fantastic Quotations
Electronic SF: Science Fiction, Fandom and the Wired World
A Conversation With John Millard
Diana Wynne Jones: A Review
Canadian Fiction 1988
Obituaries

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Kim Stanley Robinson to appear at The Spaced Out Library

Science fiction author Kim Stanley Robinson will be making a personal appearance at The Spaced Out Library at 40 St. George St. in Toronto on the evening of July 27. Robinson, the author of such books as The Gold Coast, Memory of Whiteness, The Wild Shore, Icehenge, The Planet on the Table (collection) and many shorter works, will give a reading and will answer questions.

 

Admission to the event will be free of charge to members of The Friends of The Spaced Out Library. Admission price for non-members will be $10.00 per person at the door.

 

Members may also help fund this and other programs of The Friends by contributing an additional $5.00. Members whose contributions are received at The Spaced Out Library by closing time on July 13 will be invited to a special "Meet the Author" session one hour prior to the regular program on July 27.

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The Friends of the Spaced Out Library are Alive And Well

The Friends of The Spaced Out Library is for the first time actively soliciting new members.

 

The Spaced Out Library was established in 1970 by the Toronto Public Library Board with a donation from sf writer Judith Merril. The collection currently holds approximately 20,000 monographs and short story collections, 14,000 periodicals and over 1,200 fanzine titles in the reference collection. The reference collection includes complete sets from such specialty publishers as Arkham House, Cheap Street and Gnome Press.

 

The Friends is officially a citizen advisory group to the Toronto Public Library Board. It is not a fan organisation. Its main objectives are to promote The Spaced Out Library in particular, and science fiction in general within Toronto and to promote The Spaced Out Library within the science fiction community. It is the organisation's intention to make The Spaced Out Library the best public collection of speculative fiction in the world.

 

The two main means of accomplishing this task are by publishing the semi-annual newsletter, Sol Rising, and by sponsoring appearances at the Library by prominent people in science fiction, fantasy and related fields. Three appearances or other programming are scheduled quarterly with the fourth quarter being devoted to the annual membership meeting and informal get-together.

 

The Friends of The Spaced Out Library has been in existence since February 1981 and has sponsored programming at The Spaced Out Library since then, as well as publishing two previous issues of Sol Rising (issue #2 was published in the summer of 1987). However, no serious attempts have been made so far to increase the membership of The Friends beyond those who showed interest at the inception.

But that has now changed.

 

At the annual membership meeting in April, an Executive Committee was elected and empowered to increase the membership of The Friends.

 

The Executive has assembled an attractive list of benefits to members and has begun work on an exciting lineup of programming for the coming year.

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Business Meetings of The Friends

Annual Membership Meeting

 

The Friends of The Spaced Out Library held its annual membership meeting on April 11, 1989 in order to elect a new Executive Committee and to discuss matters relating to The Spaced Out Library. This was the first meeting held in several years.

 

Lorna Toolis, head librarian for The Spaced Out Library reported that major donations to the collection had been received from Mr. John Flint Roy, Mr. Robert Bruce Robbins and Mr. Jon Lomberg. The Robbins bequest consisted of 115 boxes of science fiction, fantasy and fanzines. Many of these items were reference books and volumes of interest to collectors; library staff particularly admire the set of chapbooks published by Mr. Roy Squires. As this donation is quite large, library staff are integrating it slowly with the rest of the collection, due to constraints on both staff time and shelving space.

 

Mr. Lomberg's donation of scripts, storyboards, sketches and working notes from the various television and radio series he has worked on will be held separately as the 'Lomberg Donation'.

Members elected to the Executive Committee were: Professor Peter Fitting (Chairman), Ms. Doris Bercarich (Treasurer), Mr. Larry Hancock, Mr. Keith Soltys and Mr. Robert Hadji (all as Members-at-large). Past chairman Mr. John Millard remains a member of the Executive as does Ms. Judith Merril who was voted an Honourary member of the Executive Committee for Life.

Three major concerns were discussed at the meeting: the need for a newer, more active Friends organisation and the best means for bringing this about; concerns that the new building is still in the planning stages after the better part of a decade of discussion; and, a new name for the library.

 

The members discussed regular programming as a method of reaching the public and attracting new members. Mr. Kim Stanley Robinson has been invited as a guest for the Summer Program and Mr. Joe Haldeman as a guest for the Winter Program. The Friends will program for three consecutive Saturdays in the fall, but speakers are not yet determined. The Friends are able to invite these speakers through the funds made available in memory of Mr. Robert Bruce Robbins by his family and friends.

 

SOL RISING, the newsletter, was also discussed as a method of reaching the Library's patrons in the academic community and elsewhere. Mr. Larry Hancock offered to edit the newsletter and Mr. Arthur Wharton and Ms. Alison Knight agreed to assist with the publication.

The lack of progress in finalizing a new building for the Library was discussed at considerable length. Members were invited to write, expressing their concern about the lack of a new facility, to: Ms. Joanne Doucette, Chairman, Toronto Public Library Board, 281 Front St. E., Toronto, Ontario, M4R 1B9. A copy of such correspondence should also be sent to Mr. Peter Fitting, 73 Delaware Avenue, Toronto, Ontario, M6H 2S9.

 

Members were all agreed that a new name for the Library was highly desirable, as the purpose and function of the Library are not apparent from is name. Concern was raised about the wishes of Ms. Merril whose original donation formed the basis of the Library and who actually named the Library, but Ms. Merril expressed her consent.

 

Considerable discussion and ingenuity was expended in this discussion though no agreement on a new name was reached. Members thought it appropriate to honour Ms. Merril in the re-named library but she emphatically declined. Discussion revolved around the comparative merits of "Speculative Fiction" as opposed to "Science Fiction" with most members favouring the former. The name change is not planned to take effect until the Library moves to the new building.

 

Members were enthusiastic about the attendance at the meeting and the renewed interest in making The Friends an active organisation once again. However, it was noted that such enthusiasm had been exhibited in past, but The Friends had dropped into inactivity each time. Therefore, the members approved a motion requiring the Executive Committee to convene a meeting at least once every three months, even if no items would be on the agenda prior to the meeting. It is hoped that regular meetings will ensure continued dedication to the organisation.

 

Executive Committee Meeting

 

The Executive committee held its first meeting in early May at which several matters were discussed and approved.

 

Membership fees were discussed and decided upon. The Executive also approved the regular admission price to programming sponsored by The Friends and the fact that all members would be admitted free to such programming. Other membership benefits (such as discounts from Bakka bookstore) were approved.

 

Programming for the next year was discussed in general. Mr. Joe Haldeman has been confirmed as a guest, appearing at the Library on December 2, 1989. Possible guests were discussed for the three successive weekends of programming planned for autumn, but nothing has yet been finalized.

 

Lifetime memberships to The Friends were recommended and approved for Mr. John Millard, Mr. John Robert Colombo, Ms. Judith Merril, Ms. Doris Mehegan and Mr. John Rose.

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Welcome

Welcome to the third issue of SOL RISING, the newsletter of The Friends of The Spaced Out Library. It has been two years since we published our previous issue, but we don't intend for such time to slip by us again; The Friends is back on its feet and rededicated to its objectives of promoting The Spaced Out Library in specific and science fiction in general.

 

Each issue of SOL RISING will keep readers informed as to the activities of The Friends of The Spaced Out Library, both in regards to business conducted at membership and Executive meetings and in regards to reporting upon past programming and advising readers of upcoming programming.

 

We will also feature articles and interviews of interest to our members; this issue's articles by John Robert Colombo and Keith Soltys and the interview with John Millard are excellent examples of what can be expected in the future.

 

We have also included as complete a list as we could compile of Canadian speculative fiction printed in 1988, and hope to make this an annual occurrence.

 

We will be publishing a minimum of two issues of SOL RISING each year, perhaps more. All members of The Friends will receive copies of the newsletter as part of their membership.

 

We invite all contributions of articles for consideration of publication, but we do not pay for contributions. If there is a specific topic you would like to see covered or special projects that you feel that the Library or The Friends would be best suited to undertake, please let us know.

 

We also invite your letters of comment on the newsletter, on The Friends organisation and on The Spaced Out Library.

 

‑Larry Hancock, editor

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Canadian Fantastic Quotations

by John Robert Columbo

 

It's always a distinct pleasure when areas of interest overlap. I experienced that pleasure a year ago when I selected the contents of Colombo's Canadian Quotations. I found that I could combine with ease two long-time interests of mine: Canadiana and fantastic literature.

 

Perhaps I should explain that I have, filed away in my study in North York, some 20,000 3x5 cards. Typed on each card is a "quotable quote" made by a Canadian (say, media pundit Marshall McLuhan) or made about Canada by a foreigner (say, British travel writer Jan Morris on the Canadian "genius" for compromise). As I do a lot of reading in the area of Canadiana and a fair amount in the area of fantastic literature—by which I mean science fiction, fantasy fiction, and supernatural fiction—it is not surprising that quotations about Canada made by foreign fantastic writers have found their way into my files. Once in the files they run the risk of being recycled in one of my books.

 

About one hundred "quotable quotes" made by foreign fantastic writers about Canada have been worked into my latest compilation: Colombo's New Canadian Quotations published by Hurtig Publishers in Edmonton. One hundred quotes sounds like a lot, but that number vanishes in the shadow of the book's contents—4,000 new quotations plus 600 old "touchstone" quotations by 1,500 authors and others arranged under 800 topic headings. So the representation given to foreign fantastic authors is not all that large.

 

Which authors are included? What do they have to say to readers of Canadiana? Good questions. Foreign authors are intrigued by our cities. Vancouverites will especially enjoy the passage by Robert A. Heinlein from his novel Time Enough for Love, in which he refers interestingly to an event that took place in that city from the vantage-point of the year 4272: "That must have been late in the twentieth century and in Vancouver, as I recall. Vancouver was a part of the United States where the people were so clever that they never paid taxes to Washington."

 

Everybody hates Toronto, I suppose. Thus it was a delight to come upon Ray Bradbury's off-the-cuff remark about my adopted city. Bradbury told an interviewer: "Toronto, Canada, is the most perfect city in the Western Hemisphere." (I am not giving the full sources for these quotations, to save space, but that one comes from a Vancouver publication.)

 

It was with special, patriotic pride that I noted the reference to Montreal in the most famous radio broadcast of all time. I am referring to the 1938 radio dramatization by Orson Welles of H.G. Wells's The War of the Worlds. Listeners that Hallowe'en night heard the following mock announcement: "Ladies and gentlemen, here is the latest bulletin from the Intercontinental Radio News, Montreal, Canada: Professor Morse of McGill University reports observing a total of three explosions on the planet Mars, between the hours of 7:45 P.M. and 9:20 P.M., eastern standard time." There is no Intercontinental Radio News and no Professor Morse, but there is a McGill University and it is located in Montreal, A fine mixture of fact and fiction.

 

H.G. Wells was not neglected, for there is a longish passage from his short story "The Star" which describes the changes to the planet resulting from the birth in the heavens of a new star. It brings about the greening of Iceland, Greenland, and the region identified as "the shores of Baffin's Bay". There is a second quotation from Wells from a 1906 article about a visit to Niagara Falls. He found that "the real interest of Niagara for me was not in the waterfall, but in the human accumulations about it ...." Little has changed since then.

 

Wells is not the only science fiction writer who has been drawn to the Falls. Isaac Asimov, a poor traveller at best, made one of his few trips out of New York City in April 1963 to view the cataracts. He waxed eloquent about them in his memoirs In Joy Still Felt: "I rather lost my breath, for the Horseshoe Falls are extraordinarily beautiful." Jules Verne also paid them a visit. "I marvelled at the Niagara Falls from the top of Terrapin Tower with a lunar rainbow showing in the spray of the falls, and crossed the Suspension Bridge into Canada. And then came home." The afternoon of April 19, 1867, he spent one hour on Canadian soil. Like Asimov and even Bradbury, Verne was not much of a traveller.

 

Creative use of a Canadian motif was made by Philip Jose Farmer in his well-known novella The Lovers. This novella is notorious as the work that introduced sex to science fiction. It's a tame read today but in 1952, when it was first published, it was hot stuff! Readers will recall that the action takes place so far in the future that the things we take for granted are but memories. "Then there was North America," Farmer wrote, "where American was the native speech of all except the twenty descendants of French-Canadians living on the Hudson Bay Preserve." The French-Canadians—oops, the Quebecois—play a pivotal role in the novella's plot. The hero marries one—and dies.

 

Likely the most creative use of a Canadian locale in a foreign author's fantastic work is the use John Wyndham made of Labrador in his post-holocaust novel The Chrysalids. Labrador is certainly isolated. "For a long time it had been disputed whether any parts of the world other than Labrador and the big island of Newf were populated at all," he wrote. "They were thought to be all Badlands which had suffered the full weight of Tribulation, but it had been found that there were some stretches of Fringes country in places."

 

I could continue to single out these writers and their quotations but I would rather make a distinction. There is a difference between passages from fiction and passages from articles and interviews. The former are generally more imaginative than the latter, but they are seldom self-standing and they need to be explained. I am collecting references to Canada in fantastic literature. Readers who know about passages in well-known or little-known stories and novels could send them for a future column. You will receive gratitude!

 

Readers new to science fiction often blurt out, "Where do these authors get such ideas?" Spider Robinson gave Phil Milner of Books in Canada the ideal answer to that question. "I get my ideas from Schenectady, New York. That is the official Science Fiction Writers of America answer to the question, 'Where do you fellows get your weird ideas?' We all say Schenectady." Now, Spider may be a Yankee by birth, but he has been in Canada since 1973, and that is long enough for him to come up with a new, Canadian answer to that question. Where does the Canadianized Spider get his "weird [Canadian] ideas"? No doubt they come from Halifax or Medicine Hat or Moose Jaw or Vancouver—the city he now calls home.

 

John Robert Colombo has written, compiled, and translated 77 books. A collection of poems, Off Earth, was his 76th book; Colombo's New Canadian Quotations is his 77th. He plans to stop—or at least pause—at 100.

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Electronic SF: Science Fiction, Fandom and the Wired World

by Keith Soltys

 

"Cyberspace. A consensual hallucination experienced daily by billions of legitimate operators, in every nation, by children being taught mathematical concepts... A graphic representation of data abstracted from the banks of every computer in the human system. Unthinkable complexity. Lines of light ranged in the nonspace of the mind, clusters and constellations of data. Like city light, receding ..."

 

William Gibson

Neuromancer

 

 

Computers and SF in the Real World

 

The direct mind to computer link envisioned by William Gibson may be some time in coming but electronic communication has already reached the stage of "unthinkable complexity"—at least for some computer users if the advice columns of computer magazines are any indication. But the majority of science fiction authors, readers and fans have always been quick to embrace new technologies (even if they haven't always fully understood the implications) and computers are no exception.

 

According to a recent Locus ("The Newspaper of the Science Fiction Field") poll, 54% of that magazine's readers own a computer. That's about 5,000 people, a small fraction of the half-million or so who use the major data-nets, but it does indicate that many people are interested in both sf and electronic communications.

 

This article is a guide to some of the services available through your computer and modem—more specifically those related to science fiction. There's too much variety in hardware and software to go into much technical detail here but I will mention some general guidelines that might be helpful if this is new to you.

 

 

What's Out There?

 

In general there are two types of services available to you if you have a computer and a modem ‑those you pay for and those you don't. National services like CompuServe and The Source charge by the hour for connect time. Most local bulletin boards are free (though some may charge an initial registration fee). As with most things in life you tend to get what you pay for—the massive investments in hardware and staff required for a large commercial service don't come cheap.

 

 

The Big Three: CompuServe, The Source and Genie

 

With over 375,000 subscribers, CompuServe is the largest of the public information networks. Although its 40 mainframe computers are located in Columbus, Ohio, the network has nodes that allow access via a local phone call from most major metropolitan centres in the United States and Canada.

 

There are two other services in direct competition with CompuServe. The Source is smaller with about 60,000 subscribers, but cheaper and with many of the same features. GEnie, an offshoot of General Electric, uses the night-time spare capacity of the company's data network. It has the advantage of being the cheapest of the three systems.

 

 

The Local Guys

 

A BBS or Bulletin Board Service is a smaller version of the commercial data networks. Most are set up by hobbyists on their home computers and can be reached only through a single phone line. BBS's are notorious for their short lives, because of both equipment failure and burnout on the part of the operators (who are also known as sysops). Although some have defied the odds and been around for several years the average lifetime is probably less than a year.

 

BBS's tend to offer similar services to the larger systems, primarily electronic mail and file uploading and downloading, but of course on a much smaller scale. (There are some commercial BBS's, like PC Canada, that charge for connection and offer more services than the typical home BBS. Most specialize in file uploading-downloading and computer related topics and are out of the scope of this article.)

 

The Ontario Science Centre in Toronto maintains a popular board with a large sf section. In Minneapolis the board started by the Scribbly writers' group was the inspiration for the Bunch board. Ottawa's Pagan SF Net specializes in sf.

 

 

What Good Is It?

 

All this may sound interesting and even a little far out, especially if you've never tried it, but what practical benefits are there—especially if you're going to spend money on it?

 

Electronic mail may be the most useful capability even though it's probably not the most glamorous. It's faster and more reliable than the post office. For short messages it's cheaper than long distance phone calls and can be competitive with the mail. It's possible to send two or three messages on CompuServe in two minutes for a cost of less than $.50 per message. Fidonet (a linked network of local bulletin boards) echomail messages cost about the same.

 

CompuServe's Science Fiction Forum provides a good example of what's available on the larger systems. The sf forum is divided into 18 areas. There are sections on Science Fiction, Star Trek, Dr. Who, SF in the Movies/TV, Pern, Conventions, Fanzines, Writing, etc. Each area includes an area for messages and a data library for file upload-download. CompuServe's software allows messages to be linked to earlier messages, thus creating a "thread". Some have spanned hundreds, if not thousands, of messages. Many authors (David Gerrold, Raymond E. Feist, Mike Resnick to name a few) are regular users.

 

Sf fans are gregarious by nature and the message oriented format of the computer forums don't always provide the sense of contact that users crave. Conferences, basically the electronic equivalent of a CB channel, have grown up on the larger systems to fill this need.

 

In conference mode many users can "chat" to each other in real time. Several conversations may be going simultaneously with messages scrolling off the screen at a rate that novice users may have trouble following. A special syntax and etiquette have evolved around conferencing so that users can communicate in the least confusing manner.

 

Some conferences are more formal than others. On CompuServe, for example, there are frequent moderated conferences with special guests. Users register in advance and the sysop for the forum controls the flow of questions. Many sf authors (Cherryh, Bova, Haldeman and recently Anne McCaffrey from her computer in Ireland) have participated in these conferences.

 

Transcripts are stored in the forum's data libraries along with other topical files. There can be hundreds of files in a forum library. Book and film reviews, interview transcripts, articles and stories can all be downloaded.

 

The electronic magazine is a new variation on this theme. There are at least two fanzines (Other Realms and TORUS) whose text is distribute in electronic format. Once uploaded the distributions is out of control of the editors—which is part of the attraction as one never knows where the magazine may end up.

 

Most smaller boards will have areas devoted to file upload and download which often include programs that can be useful to BBS users, text files about various subjects and games. Not all boards offer this and uploads are usually checked by the sysop due to the proliferation of dangerous "trojan horse" programs; anti-social creations which appear to be legitimate until they take control of a system and destroy its data.

 

Connecting with an on-line service doesn't require a great investment in hardware or software. You need a computer (it is possible to use a dumb terminal but I'm going to ignore that option here), a modem, a connection to a phone line and software. It doesn't require much computing power and there are many good, free, public-domain programs available for almost every brand of computer. Magazines, computer clubs and local dealers are good sources of help and information.

 

 

Looking Ahead

 

Electronic bulletin boards and their larger cousins like CompuServe and the Source are the first wave in a new medium of information storage and exchange. Over the coming years more and more information will be available on-line. If the past few years are any indication science fiction readers, fans and authors will be among the first and foremost users of the new systems and among the first to reap their benefits.

 

 

Technical Tips—SF related BBS's

 

Ontario Science Centre, Toronto (416) 429-1700

The Pagan SF Net, Ottawa (613) 875-2032

Terraboard, Minneapolis (612) 721-8967

 

To connect to most BBS's set your communications software to either 300 or 1200 baud (few BBS's support 2400 baud), 8 bit words, no parity and one stop bit. If that doesn't work try 7 bit words, even parity and one stop bit. And if that confuses you don't worry, once you've set it and it works (and it probably will) you can forget about it.

 

 

CompuServe, The Source and Genie

 

These services have local phone numbers in most major cities in the United States and Canada. They can be accessed through packet switching networks like Datapac and Tymnet outside of those areas. This adds an extra cost to the connection but it's still cheaper than a long-distance call to the nearest node.

 

Connect rates vary from US$5.00/ hour for GEnie to US$12.50/hour for CompuServe. Rates may vary depending on modem speed and time of day. Starter kits with an instruction manual are available at some computer stores.

 

Anyone contemplating using one of the major services should look for software specific to that service. On CompuServe, for example, programs like AUTOSIG or TAPCIS allow you to read and reply to messages off-line, saving vast amounts of money in connect charges. Also they are easier to use than the sometimes cryptic command syntax of the major services. They can usually be downloaded from one of the computer-oriented forums and are well worth the cost of the download.

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A Conversation With John Millard

John Millard is Toronto's "Old Man of SF Fandom". A member of First Fandom, John was the chairman of both of the World Science Fiction Conventions that have been held in Toronto. In this interview, conducted in the spring of 1988, he shares his memories of the beginning of Toronto fandom and of the WoridCons he has attended over the years.

 

MICHAEL SKEET: To start off John, when did you first discover science fiction?

 

JOHN MILLARD: Sometime in the early thirties. I'm not exactly sure when.

 

MS: You moved to Toronto in the mid 40's, right?

 

JM: Well, first let's get back to the beginning. I was born here in Toronto—I'm a Canadian by birth—in '17, at the end of November. Sometime in the fall of '19, my family moved to Jackson, Michigan, about 75 miles west of Detroit. That's where I was brought up and went to school. I graduated from high school in '36, returned to Canada in 1942 and joined the Air Force for the duration.

 

MS: When you discovered science fiction, did you discover science fiction fandom at the same time?

 

JM: Back in my high school days, I was very big reader. I read everything l could get my hands on. Of course, in those days the pulp magazines were THE thing! You could buy them for ten cents or twenty cents. The most you ever had to pay was a quarter. But I read everything, including science fiction …mystery stories, western stories, anything. In one of the magazines in … I guess it was the early forties … in an issue of Astonishing Tales, there was a bit at the bottom of one story … I guess you'd call it a filler … about a science fiction convention. The second World Science Fiction Convention was to be held in Chicago on the Labour Day weekend of 1940. So I decided I wanted to go.

 

MS: So your first introduction to fandom was at a convention?

 

JM: Yes, at the convention. That's the first time I ever knew anything about it, although I had been reading science fiction for quite a while.

 

MS: What did you see there, in Chicago?

 

JM: Well, I met a number of people who seemed to be interested, and the main thing that struck me was that everybody was publishing a fanzine, or what they called "fan mags" in those days. Aside from reading the stuff and talking about it, everybody wanted to publish a magazine.

 

MS: How did you meet up with the science fiction fandom community in Toronto after the war?

 

JM: I went to the second convention and I also went to the third convention which was held in Denver in '41 …came back here in '42 …spent about a year or more here in Canada doing some training, then I went overseas. I spent almost three years in England. I came back and stayed on for awhile and I discharged in '46. At the end of '46 I started a course at Ryerson—what is now Ryerson but was then the old Rehab school—studying electronics. In September of that year, the Worldcon was being held in Philadelphia, so I took sometime off and went. At that convention I met a couple of guys from Toronto, who I didn't know before: Ned McKeown and Joe Taylor. Ned McKeown was gungho about the convention and wanted to put a bid in for the 1948 convention, which we did. We had some competition from a guy from Milwaukee but his … it was an ad hoc thing, it wasn't like it is today. It wasn't highly organized, just a spur of the moment thing. We got the bid for it and held the convention in 1948. That's where I really began to know people in fandom in Canada.

 

MS: How exactly did you go about bidding for the 1948 WorldCon?

 

JM: We just started a little promotion right there in the convention, did whatever we could to let people know that we were interested in doing it. And of course you had to make a small presentation, give some ideas what the city was like. It was a voice vote, there were no ballots.

 

MS: Do you remember how many people were involved in the voting?

 

JM: Oh, I'd say maybe a hundred and twenty-five, a hundred and fifty at the most.

 

MS: Out of … what was the attendance at the convention?

 

JM: Well, I don't think the attendance was more than two hundred and fifty at any one time.

 

MS: How many people worked on the organizing committee for the '48 WorldCon?

 

JM: Well, Ned and I did most of the work, but other people came around and helped when we needed it.

 

MS: Where was the convention held?

 

JM: It was held in a small auditorium called Rai Purdy Studio. It was an auditorium in a commercial building on Queen Street near St. Michael's Hospital. It's no longer in existence today. The building's been torn down. There's a skyscraper in its place today. But it was the only place we could get. The convention was held on the July 1st holiday because back in 1948 the Labour Day holiday included the Canadian National Exhibition and you couldn't get hotel space if you tried. So we held it in July. We tried a couple of hotels but they weren't interested in our business, so we went to the convention bureau and they told us about this place.

 

MS: Was the convention spread out?

 

JM: People were staying in different hotels but hotel space was kind of tight after the war. There weren't too many around. There was the Royal York and the King Edward. Some people stayed at the King Edward. The King Edward was closest.

 

MS: What was the social scene like? Was there a lot of partying?

 

JM: Partying had just started at the conventions. There were some parties in Philadelphia